Use for BIAB and fruit12/28/2015 ByDave I have used this product many times over the last 2 years, probably to the tune of 2 dozen times, for wine and beer. As a BIAB, I typically would use 8# of grain or less, the larger grain bills I would use the bag in the preforated insert (steamer basket) for my 9 gal boil kettle which would add extra support for draining and sparging. It is quite discolored after using it last month to steep 15# overripe bananas (slimy goop). The seams are still holding and I must say it is a versatile bag... well worth the money.